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Luke 4:21-30

 

4:21 Then he began to say to them, "Today this scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing."

4:22 All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his mouth. They said, "Is not this Joseph's son?"

4:23 He said to them, "Doubtless you will quote to me this proverb, 'Doctor, cure yourself!' And you will say, 'Do here also in your hometown the things that we have heard you did at Capernaum.'"

4:24 And he said, "Truly I tell you, no prophet is accepted in the prophet's hometown.

4:25 But the truth is, there were many widows in Israel in the time of Elijah, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, and there was a severe famine over all the land;

4:26 yet Elijah was sent to none of them except to a widow at Zarephath in Sidon.

4:27 There were also many lepers in Israel in the time of the prophet Elisha, and none of them was cleansed except Naaman the Syrian."

4:28 When they heard this, all in the synagogue were filled with rage.

4:29 They got up, drove him out of the town, and led him to the brow of the hill on which their town was built, so that they might hurl him off the cliff.

4:30 But he passed through the midst of them and went on his way.

 

Comments:

 

"Ear Candy". The trouble with the gospel is that it holds itself -and it's proclaimers!- to a higher standard than one comes to expect from presidential speeches and coaches pep-talks. Jeremiah's encounter with the almighty was sounding all wonderful and sweet until that sobering/sour phrase about building up and plucking down; to plant and to wreek havok! Now Jesus is doing some of the same; just after we note that some speak well of him and celebrate his gracious words...now he lets 'em have it with a reality trip that sends them to throwing stones!

So what's the place from which to preach the gospel? Do we communicate enough grace and goodness to do justice to God's good news??? Do we speak enough trouble and cynicism to accurately reflect the world as it stands in need of God's good news?? Frederich Buechner says that the gospel is always bad news before it is good news (quoted by Paul Scott Wilson in "The Four Pages of the Sermon, abingdon, 1999). Maybe there's something in that; candy -for the tummy or the ear- is no sensible ingredient for a steady diet, but it works alright as a re"treat" from the normal. As such, the gospel requires us to chew on the tuff realities of our need for God's grace long enough to appreciate the 'candy' of how that Grace DOES offer a way out.

Perry in kitchener/Waterloo, Ontario


Jesus picked a fight!

From the text, obviously the first reactions from the audience to Jesus’ sermon were very favorable: “All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his mouth. They said, ‘Is not this Joseph's son?’” But then He had to provoke them and telling them how God had moved on from them. (Yike! Would that be my fate too? For I have been growing up and serving at this same church for the last 20 years...) No wonder that “when they heard this, all in the synagogue were filled with rage.”

Why didn’t Jesus just keep His mouth shut?! The key seems to be in v.23: He said to them, "Doubtless you will quote to me this proverb, 'Doctor, cure yourself!' And you will say, 'Do here also in your hometown the things that we have heard you did at Capernaum.'" Unless Jesus was mistaken, the crowd inner reactions were not the same as their outward reactions in the preceding verse. (So, the next time people respond well to the sermon, don’t take heed too much, watch for their real responses from their life styles).

What were the audience’s real reactions? They wanted to see “the things that they have heard Jesus did at Capernaum.” They demanded that Jesus walk his talk (didn’t He just finished saying that God anointed Him to recover the sight for the blind, release the captives, and bring good news to the poor earlier?) But this was more than just a hunger to see some actions; this was the stubborn challenge to the authority of God. (Sadly, this will be one of the typical responses we can expect from harden hearts toward our preaching: ‘Hey preacher, apply that to yourself first;’ and ‘Yeah, it would be nice if YOU do something about it!’)

The same Word spoken, to the humble heart (which submit itself under the authority of God) breeds life-changing responses; yet to the harden heart yields stubborn challenges and even persecutions to the proclaimers.

“He passed through the midst of them and went on His way.” It is interesting to see how Jesus responded to the harden hearts. He didn’t bother to prove Himself with miraculous signs or healing. Nor neither he corrected their misconception of “Is not this Joseph’s son, a historical man named Jesus?” He shook his sandals and moved on. In the tradition of Jeremiah and the prophets, Jesus came back to His own hometown and proclaimed God’s Word. In that same tradition, He provoked them to revealed the true state of their harden hearts. And if that tradition were to hold true, as He was on His way departing from them, His own heart was also broken in grief, for He loved them and wished so much that things could end in the different way.

Father God, keep my heart humble to the authority of Your Word so that I can lead my congregation in humility toward Your Word too. Don’t pass through our midst and go on your way, leaving us with our religions and rituals but without You. Help us to respond rightly (both outward expressions and inward attitudes) to You and Your Word!

Coho, Midway City


People in Jesus' hometown are initially pleased when he says that God will free the oppressed. Their pleasure turns to rage, however, when he reminds them that prophets often bring God's blessings to those who are regarded as outsiders.

Jesus stands in the synagogue in his hometown, reading the scripture. Then he sits down, as was the custom, to interpret—to preach. He is surrounded by kinfolk, neighbors, friends. Surely this is a loving assembly, as when one of our own goes to seminary and returns to preach among us. And at first "all spoke well of him" and were properly impressed at his gracious words.

This reception was less than it seemed. Quibbles arose: "Is not this Joseph's son?" Just a carpenter, a common man. Rumors had returned here of Jesus' healings in Capernaum. Some who knew him thought he should heal himself, others wanted to see the show. There is nothing here reflecting the sort of encouragement God showed to Jeremiah.

Proclamation of the gospel, as Jesus will make clear in parables, is a two-way street. The word must be lovingly proclaimed, and it must be lovingly received. Paul lays out memorably the parameters of love in today's second reading. In fact, it takes little effort to alter Paul's words to fit the hearing assembly: "If one speaks in tongues of mortals and of angels, but does not have love, it will sound like a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal." The original wording, of course, applies to the preacher; the responsibility lies on both parties.

The gospel flourishes in the matrix of love. It has amazing power in itself, but it cannot do its work where it is strangled by an absence of love. Every congregation wants to be a gathering of loving people nourishing all that is good. But we need to be reminded now and then of the hard truth that warm, fuzzy thoughts are not enough. The gospel calls from us loving action—patient, kind, not envious or arrogant—in response to the proclamation.

George W. Hoyer


To be known by God can be a challenge as well as a comfort. Jesus is back in his hometown with people he has known all of his life. They are amazed by his reading from the prophet Isaiah in the synagogue and his claim that the words of the prophet are fulfilled in him. They think they know Jesus - he is Joseph's son! But Jesus reminds them of the stories of two prophets who were not sent to the people of Israel but to foreigners. He tells them that he knows they will not receive him, either. He knows them and expects their response: they try to kill him.


When I went to serve First Presbyterian Church in Paris, Texas in 1990, one of the first things I noticed was that there were two chairs (heaavy oak, almost throne chairs) on each side of the communion table. I asked what they were for- and Mr. Bauer said that they were for the pointer and the beaner. The pointer's job was to listen to the sermon, and if there was a part of the sermon that he thought applied to a person in the congregation, he was to stand up and point at them. And what did the beaner do, I asked. Mr Bauer said that he was to watch for those who were starting to nod off, and he had a drinking straw and some small beans...

I've never seen a congregation without a few pointers. Somehow, the sermon always seems to apply to someone else

Grace and Peace;

revgilmer in texarkana


The bad news is ... the healing is for Namaan and the never ending meal and oil are for the widow of Zarephath, not for me.

The good news is that if I love Namaan and the widow of Zarephath, I have something to rejoice about too!

Why do you think they let him pass through the crowd and depart? Do you think that as part of a mob they were willing to do it, but when it came down to who was actually going to hurl him off the cliff they all left it for someone else? Did Mary or Joseph or one of Jesus siblings show up and shame them? Did they come to their senses when Jesus did not resist them?

I just find it rather curious that there isn't any explanation. I guess as far as Luke is concerned, WHY they refrained from throwing him off the cliff isn't important. The important thing is THAT he was able to walk away.

SS in PA


I think that perhaps there is a connection to this gospel pericope from some words that Jean Vanier wrote years ago about our own communities (regardless of denomination, stated purpose, goals, hopes): "It is quite easy to found a community. There are always plenty of courageous people who want to be heroes, are ready to sleep on the floor, to work hard hours each day, to live in dilapidated houses. It’s not hard to camp—anyone can rough it for a time. The problem comes in living with brothers and sisters whom we have not chosen but who have been given to us, and in working ever more truthfully towards the goal. A community is only being created when its members accept that they are not going to achieve great things, that they are not going to be heroes, but simply live each day with new hope, like children, in wonderment as the sun rises and in thankfulness as it sets. Community is only being created when they have recognized that the greatness of humanity lies in the acceptance of our insignificance, our human condition, and to thank God for having put in a finite body the seeds of eternity which are visible in small and daily gestures of love and forgiveness." I'm still pondering the daily implications of that... Fr. Tom, OCW


I often think of when I was out of college and I interviewed with my home church for a children/youth director position. I was offered the position, but I turned it down because I kept hearing this scripture in my head. I usually think the same thing when I hear of people serving in the church they grew up in. I think it is hard for many to let go of the image of a person as a child.

Nebraska Nick


Perry in kitchner got me to thinking: being a preacher/pastor, I've been thinking lately, is much like walking a tightrope. My role is part chaplain part turn-around pastor, and those roles can come into conflict!! When I get into trouble is when I start thinking that it's my job to "save" a congregation - usually from its ultimate demise. At those times (and they are many, I confess), I recall the words of a more experienced pastor ... "if you try to be a savior, remember that saviors are always crucified."

While I, too, have difficulty feeding "candy" to hearers of "my" sermon, or interpreting the Gospel as entertaining Pabulum, I think Perry is right. Pushing the envelope too far is counterproductive.

Another pastor put it to me thusly: "They have a savior and it isn't you." (ouch!)

one more thing:

What strikes me this time is not that they were mad at Jesus (this is an old familiar story and the impact that ANYone would disagree with JESUS has worn off), but just how passionately angry we can get when our point of view is challenged.

The psych major in me attributes this to a serious identity crisis: it's not just our point of view, but our very identities wrapped up in that point of view defining who we ARE that causes this angry defensive reaction.

Sally


I had been serving churches for 8 years when the church I had grown up in had an anniversary and invited back all those who had gone off into full time ministry. It had actually been 22 years since I had graduated HS and went to college, never to return to that church for regular attendance, yet I was invited to preach one of their Sunday services as part of their annivesary. The sermon was brilliant and well executed, if I do say so myself. Then little old Mrs. Unger came up to me in front of a whole crowd and said, "I remember when little Davie was the narrator of the youth play...he was so cute then and still is today." No one commented on the sermon at all, only on my time as a child and youth in that church. You really can't go home...at least not to preach. Rev. Israel


Sally, Well, that's what Mr. Bauer told me. He may have been kidding, but he told me that it was the truth-and I have yet to see a communion table with one chair on each side (that stayed there all the time) anywhere else.

revgilmer in texarkana


It strikes me that Jesus' words were accepted, "All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his mouth," but that Jesus Christ himself was not accepted.

In "The Cost of Discipleship", Bonhoeffer writes, "Discipleship means adherence to Christ, and, because Christ is the object of that adherence, it must take the form of discipleship. An abstract Christology, a doctrinal system, a general religious knowledge on the subject of grace or on the forgiveness of sins, render discipleship superfluous, and in fact they positively exclude any idea of discipleship whatever, and are essentially inimical to the whole conception of following Christ. With an abstract idea it is possible to enter into a relation of formal knowledge, to become enthusiastic about it, and perhaps even to put it into practice; but it can never be followed in personal obedience...And a Christianity of that kind is nothing more or less than the end of discipleship." (Chap. 2, p. 59)

Could it be that their (our?) enthusiasm about doctrine, ideals, concepts, abstracts, words stood in the way of truly accepting and following Christ? That instead, they (we?) were disciples of doctrines, disciples of ideals, and disciples of words? That they (we?)accepted the words, but not the Messiah? They had a simple choice: acceptance or rejection - not of the words, but of the Christ. They chose rejection.

What is our choice?

What is my choice?

Ed in GA


"The synagogue was filled with rage." I was asked to leave my congregation. I don't know any of you. I thought I knew them.It hurts

From: weary of well doing


This is the first time I have posted here, although I have "lurked" for awhile - and truly owe thanks to those who post so thoughtfully and reflectively every week. You have inspired me more than once!

This Sunday we are celebrating Scout Sunday in our church, and the readings for this week are leading me to reflect on the possible pitfalls of honest leadership. When I see those young people, my inclination is to exhort them to always strive to be true to themselves, to be honest, to be willing to go against what is popular if it means doing what they feel is right. And yet, I have to wonder how often I have sidestepped opportunities to do these very things in the pulpit because of concerns about offending some of the people in the pews.

Weary, your words touched my heart and prompted me to post. Most of the pastors I know are trying their best to be faithful to their call to proclaim the gospel and care for their congregations. I cannot imagine the pain of having that rejected. My prayers are with you.

RevMary in Illinois


It takes courage and guts to stand before your hometown and proclaim, "I have the words of everlasting life."

But didn't we see you in nappies (diapers)? Didn't we play with you in the dirt of the street? Didn't we see you struggling to read, and speak even the most basic of words? Didn't you go to school with my little Tommy? He doesn't profess to being the saviour.

It takes guts and courage to stand before a congregation and proclaim the gospel, when people know that you are a human being! Whether that be your hometown or after you have lived in a parish for 2 - 3 years.

People see only the person.

They very rarely see the truth you are trying to offer them. They also almost always resent any suggestion that they have to change. It is much easier if one man should die, for the sake of the nation.

Weary, I had to leave a parish because of a hostile parishioner. I can't know your specific pain, but I do share something of the hurt and frustration you offer in your post. Can I offer, that it is more common than we would care to admit in the church.

I am cynical I know, but I now trust very few parishioners. Beware the mob, who one day cry "Hosanna" and the next day "Crucify him".

I still remain in the church by a thread of faith, but in the belief, that I have nowhere else to go.

Regards KGB


KGB,

Your words reminded me...

Jesus said, "Do you also wish to go away?

They answered, "Lord, to whom shall we go, you have the words of eternal life."

Often our depression does thin our faith to threads, but our Lord's words of eternal life remain, and we are compelled to share them, within the church, and to the outsiders. Keep the faith, we are in this with you.

Michelle


Weary of well-doing,

May the Lord bless you and keep you. The Lord make his face shine on you, and be gracious to you. The Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace.

From your DPS friends


I am assuming our Lord's Mother, Mary, lived in this town in this community before Jesus came back and after this scene from Luke 4... I wonder how she treated those in her community? and how did they treat her?

Wondering, Hook


Unsigned poster - that was powerful - a sermon in itself.

Who are you?

Sally


With the start of Survivor this Sunday, I can't resist ...

"he got voted off the island!" "The tribe has spoken!"

a Survivor fan


I return to what I said last week: A serious part of Jesus' early theme was realized eschatology. It's in this text. It's in Mark "Repent! The kingdom of heaven is at hand." It's in Matthew in the Sermon on the Mount. "Blessed are..." not "blessed will be." Jesus calls people to look at the flowers of the field and the birds of the air to see and understand God's providence and love.

We live in a world (Christian world) that points to a kingdom of the not yet. What does it mean-- what dreams does it shatter-- to announce that God's kingdom is now available in the very midst of you-- that "Today, all this is fulfilled in your presence."

That's not a message that most people want to hear. People want and expect more. Because of that, they tend to ignore the bounty that God has already set before them.

My sermon last week set up the theme of realized eschatology. And there were some quizical looks, a bit of frustration, and a couple of comments-- "I've never looked at it that way before. God surely has been gracious, hasn't he?" However, that was the minority opinion.

It was not just the local boy. It's the message that he's preaching-- particularly when he isn't doing miracles in their midsts. Mark (6) and Matthew (13)focus more strongly on the hometown connection. ANd in both of them, it appears that he did do "some" or "a few" miraculous acts in their midst. It is only in Luke that the focus is on the content of his preaching and that seems to make that a focal point for preaching this Lukan text.

Anyway, those are my thoughts to this point.

West Texas Presbyterian


I also am coming at it from the standpoint of ordinary people as preachers. Okay, we all know that we're ordinary people, but our congregations don't see us that way and sometimes don't like to see us that way because it would challenge them. I am going to talk about the preaching of ordinary people and that it's the message that was important. I'm also thinking about blending in the Jeremiah text and doing a "Top Ten Excuses for not serving God" and bringing in Moses, Jeremiah, Zachariah, etc.

If it works, that is! This is my first post as well but I thank all of you for the several weeks of help I've gotten. Not answers, just inspiration. Peace, Beth in GA


Also, I forgot to add that although Jesus was not ordinary and was in fact the gospel personified, the people still could not hear the message because they couldn't see past the person. How common that is, and how common it is to not even be able to see past ourselves. Hope that clears things up a bit. Peace, Beth in GA


I am being drawn to the idea that Jesus "went on his way." He left them behind (a twist on the popular books). Someone posted this week about being left behind by A Christ who is moving forward. Are we moving forward with him? Here is a true story. Oscar was an 85 year old former butcher (they called him "butch"). He went to mass everyday and to the tavern three times a week. The tavern even had a "Butch" burger named after him. He would walk into the tavern and all would greet him, like "Norm" of Cheers fame. Butch was well loved. One day, as he struggled to get up the steps to the church for mass (his knees were shot from 20 years as a semi-pro catcher) a young priest said to him "Oscar, you have been faithful to this church and to Christ for so many years. There is no need for you to come everyday." (At 85 what Oscar heard and what was actually said may not have been the same thing.) So Oscar stopped attending mass, and no one from ST. Stephen's ever called to check up on him.

One day Butch was in the tavern and mentioned his roof was in disrepair. That weekend a crew of ten guys from the tavern tore off his roof and replaced it for the cost of materials only. When Butch's son died at 55 of a heart attack the tavern owner sent him a butch burger and a couple of cold beers as well as an employee and some tavern patrons to keep him company until his other son could arrive from out of state.

Christ had left that church behind, He had moved on to a tavern around the corner.

When Butch died, we all went to the tavern following the funeral to have butch burgers and a beer in his memory. The burgers were on the house, the mass at St. Stephen's had to be paid for.

RevIsrael


As an addendum to that story above...I don't mean it to sound as anti-Catholic as it does. It could have happened at any church of any denomination. It just so happened that Butch was Catholic..and my wife's grandfather. The story is all to true and all to sad.

RevIsrael


RevIsrael -- your story is heartbreaking -- and probably truer of more of our churches than we care to admit!

Blessings, Eric in OH


I'm toying with the idea that all three of the other lessons are about sharing one's faith with others (i.e., evangelism). Jeremiah is commissioned by God as a prophet, though only a boy, to go deliver God's word to the people. At the end of Ps. 71, vv. 15-17 read: "My mouth shall recount your mighty acts and saving deeds all day long; though I cannot know the number of them. I will begin with the mighty works of the Lord GOD; I will recall your righteousness, yours alone." (In the Episcopal Lectionary we use the whole of the psalm, or vv. 1-6 _and_ 15-17.) And then there's Paul admonishing those who speak in tongues not to do so if there is no interpreter available because the message will be lost on the stranger who would be unable to say "amen" to the speaker's words.

Three lessons about speaking God's word to the people. Then this Gospel about the results of speaking that word ... that is, rejection! Which is, frankly, often the result of any evangelism.

I once had a spiritual director who, whenever I complained about being badly treated by parishioners or bishops or fellow clergy or whomever, would say to me, "And how did they treat Jesus?" Basically, he was saying something like "Why should you expect to be treated any better by the powers of this world than the One who walked this way before and who promised you persecution and death if you follow him?"

That's a good question. And why should we (and our congregants) who try to speak the word of God to the world around us expect to have any better reception than th One who was the Word of God!?!?

Anyway -- that's sort of where my early-in-the-week thoughts are going....

Blessings, Eric in OH

17 O God, you have taught me since I was young, * and to this day I tell of your wonderful works.

Blessings, Eric in OH


Sometimes I think the only time you should start with family and neighbors is when you're selling Girl Scout cookies.

If I were a doctor setting up practice, I don't believe I would want to start my patient list with the people I had known my whole life. If I were a teacher, I would not want to start my career teaching at my old high school. It's too close, and it would be too hard to make the switch between the relationship as it was and how it needs to be now. It would be too easy to tell people what they want to hear from a friend, rather than what they need to hear from a person answering a call to serve the best way possible. It would also be too easy to accept shoddy work because of long-term friendship and desire to not cause a rift. Maybe later, after I got myself well established in my career, I could return home to work among my neighbors, if they still want me. If not, fine. There are others who will want me.

Even though I find terrific insight in the lines of thought offered by previous posts, I am also thinking along the line that Jesus HAD to go to Nazareth to let the family and friends know that he no longer belonged to them, but to all Israel, and indeed the world. "I'm not going to start my ministry with you because I know you too well. I will begin elsewhere. You can hear about the work I do, and when I come back to this area, you can decide for yourself whether you want to come hear me. Don't expect anything from me because I'm your neighbor; wait until you see what I will do. Assess my work based on my work, not on my friendship with you."

I'm not aware of many times when people followed Jesus because of what he MIGHT do for them, (outside of the 12 disciples, that is) but plenty of times when they followed because of what he had already done for them. We love because he first loved us, not because he might love us in the future.

Mid-week musings.

KyHoosierCat


KHC offered, "Even though I find terrific insight in the lines of thought offered by previous posts, I am also thinking along the line that Jesus HAD to go to Nazareth to let the family and friends know that he no longer belonged to them, but to all Israel, and indeed the world."

I actually laughed out loud ("LOL" you know) when I read this because it reminded me of the day I told my folks I was retiring from the practice of law after 15 years to become a priest. My stepdad and I had a knock-down-drag-out argument about it. My mother was not at all supportive, although not as angry as my dad; I learned later that she tried to get my brother, sister-in-law, and step-sister all to talk me out of it! LOL ... four years later, after seminary and year in the ordained diaconate, a few months after I was ordained to the presbyterate, I learned that my folks were attending "inquirers' classes" and preparing to be received and confirmed in the Episcopal Church (my mom was reared in the Disciples and my dad was an R.C. - both nonpracticing). When I asked about this, my mother said, "Well, I guess your serious about this so I should learn something about the Episcopal Church." She went on to become a very active member, office volunteer, secretary of the Episcopal Church Women, and a hostess in her parish's "reception guild". I think she was doing all the things she thought a priest's mother ought to do.... I wonder sometimes if Mary was the same way, doing all the things she thougha a Messiah's mother ought to do....

Blessings, Eric in OH


I don't know about you, but I already covered this passage last Sunday, not realizing the text would pick up at verse 21. Oh, well.

I may be mistaken, but I took it that Luke was "tongue-in-cheek" at the least when his hometown people "...all spoke well of him", especially after Jesus related the text to himself. And it may have been a literary device which Luke is famous for: Jesus was 'praised by everyone' as he preached in the Synagogues of Galilee...before coming home to Nazareth.

"The Year of the Lord's favor" was Jubilee: a gracious way to say 'revolution'?

Steve


A brief note of explanation -- my comments above about the Epistle Lesson are based on the Episcopal Lectionary which uses 1 Cor 14:12b-20 for that lesson instead of Ch. 13 used in the RCL.

Blessings, Eric in OH


along the lines of how families receive the news - whew! It's NOT easy, is it. My family is STILL trying to adjust to it, I think.

Yet, I "hear" the dilemma (how cliche) - my mom wanted me to say some words at my dad's funeral. I said "no," but I did read scripture (I Cor 13, ironically enough). Really only because it seemed important to her. For me, I just wanted to cry.

While that was grief and Jesus is talking about prophesy (or prophecy?), I sort of "feel" that awkwardness with him. If I'd have firmly refused to even read scripture, my mom would forever remember my dad's funeral as my not taking part in it and, while not filled with rage and disowning me, she'd have been mad.

Such are we when we expect to be served. Far be it from me to think for God (but I'm going to anyway) - maybe just maybe - it's in our expecting to be served, as if we somehow own it, that precipitates "the Divine No." Not necessarily that God says no because we're undeserving - because we ARE and that's the whole point of grace - but that when we expect much, when we presume ourselves to be entitled to healing or help or status or whatever, we become that much more aware ofwhat we DON't have rather than what we DO have. A theology of poverty, so to speak.

How much greater to have a theology of wealth - a theology modeled by the widow.

Thinking this through...and still haven't come up with anything truly preachable.

Sally in GA


to continue (sorry - thinking in soundbytes again)

therefore, when all were amazed at Jesus, they probably felt like "Cool! Home boy made good - and we've got 'im!" When Jesus says essentially that you can't really do ministry among your own kin, that made them mad. Shouldn't they be entitled to some Messianic help?

Sally


Dear "Weary"

You are in the best of company! Many (dare I say most?) pastors have experienced rejection in some form. Not all have been asked to leave a church, but Jesus was crucified for speaking truth. You still have a chance to speak, to reach other hearts with truth. I pray that you will receive blessing and strength while you sojourn in the wilderness, and that you come out stronger than ever before, ready and able to speak the truth in love. Blessings, RevJanet in CNY


To weary,

yes, I know it hurts. Been there. But take heart that the Lord has a better place for you. You are in my prayers. If you want to talk, feel free to email me at swmoriarty@earthlink.net.

Susan in Wa.


Weary - In listening to a colleague who had just been asked to leave her church, I found out that our denomination provides FREE counseling, something like 8 sessions, and then after that, the sessions cost $10 an hour. Obviously this is subsidized by our UM conference health insurance, and I'm grateful. I'm also a little incensed because I had no idea this was available when I went through the rejection bit and paid someone big bucks to hear what your dps friends are telling you now - that we are praying for you, that there are very few of us who have never gone through that, and if anyone knows your pain, Jesus does. Check the possibilities for denominational support, not just for easing your personal pain, but for gaining experience in understanding and dealing with congregational dynamics, which are sometimes really convoluted and dysfunctional. kbc in sc


My family wasn't angry about my call to ministry, but they were sure puzzled. Never would have thought it of me, I guess. But my "confirmation" from my parents came when my sister died. My mother looked me straight in the eye and said, "Will you officiate at her funeral?" I did, and am glad I did. When my mother died, my father asked me the same question. So, frankly, when I don't measure up to somebody's standard, I don't give it a second thought. I know that there are those who do honor the call I received many years ago - whether they are family, friends or parisoners. (Maybe this fits better with the Wedding at Cana - Jesus and Mary)

It's not just ministry, either. My brother was a poor student, at best. We all thought he'd get out of schoolhouses as fast as he possibly could. But now he's one terrific teacher, especially for those students who struggle with their lessons. Who would have guessed he could do that??

The calling comes from God. Let others say and think whatever they will, become angry, storm out or try to throw you out, the call must be answered to God's standards, not to satisfy the whims of the generally unhappy, twitchy people out there.

KHC


Is Jesus saying that ministry in your local environment doesn't work? How then, do we encourage our churches to not just sit in their pews but get out there and minister?

Perplexed


Perplexed,

This is not about the ability of the laity to pastorally minister to one another.

Jesus said, "Truly I tell you, no prophet is accepted in the prophet's hometown." This statement is about prophets. These are the people who draw people out of their comfort zones. Who challenge people to improve their position. Prophets are those who read the signs of the times and recognise the consequences of current attitudes and such.

It is not Jesus's pastoral ministry that is being rebuked, but his recognition that the people of Israel had been, and were, dysfunctional in their spiritual life. They were being bypassed by God's Spirit for people in places such as Sidon and Syria. (Considered pagan and condemned places by orthodox Jews)

Jesus was challenging them to come out of their apathetic and lukewarm approach to the gospel of God (which we read last week) They simply weren't living up to their part of the bargain and so they were in danger of being overlooked.

For people who think they are the favoured people of God, and they are truly righteous, there is only one response to make - they are offended at Jesus's inference.

It is the prophet they are wanted to hurl off the cliffs, because a prophet often strikes too close to the bone, to be simply ignored.

So I believe that laity can minister to each other in a pastoral way, but see what happens when one of them challenges the others in what they should be doing. As that person takes on prophetic aspirations, the others will respond in exactly the same way as they did with Jesus.

"Who are you to tell us???"

The pastorally caring priest will always be more popular than the prophetic one.

I hope I'm right in thinking that this might be what is causing your confusion. Please disregard if it isn't.

Thanks anyhow for the opportunity to respond.

Regards, KGB


Something in some of the comments triggered my memory of the old saw that an expert is someone who carries a briefcase, has a great slide show, and comes from more than 50 miles away.

How many of us have brought in facilitators for leadership retreats or workshops who don't say anything any different from what we have said to our congregations already? Yet, the message is heard more clearly when it comes from the outsider....

Isn't the same principal operative here? The "local boy" may say the same thing as the expert/prophet from far away, but we're not able or willing to hear it from the local fellow.

Is this because, as the shibboleth puts it, "familiarity breeds contempt"? Our knowledge of the speaker gets in the way of what he/she has to say. And when we are the speaker, others familiar with us have the same sort of barriers to hearing our words.

Blessings, Eric in OH


revgilmer in texarkana,

You made me laugh on a morning that I needed a laugh. I shall use the illustration of the pointer and the beaner on Sunday morning, for our church has those "immoveable" large oak chairs as well. Ever heard of Ry Cooder who played the slide guitar in the movie, "Paris, Texas"?

Pastor Bill in NC


When I preached on this text three years ago, I focused on God's call.. that God doesn't always choose the likely candidates (the good boys, who everyone says, "Isn't that nice" after they speak). When the people said "Isn't that nice?" Jesus got mad, because it was a sign that they didn't really hear the prophetic nature of what he was saying.

We have a shortage of pastors in our denomination. And as a church we are not cultivating the gifts of our young people enough... maybe because we tend to be prejudiced against the very people God may be calling. We're looking at the good boys and girls, not the ones who can throw tables, sneak away from the group at night, drink wine at parties and not be afraid of getting into trouble or questioning authority.

This time I'm going to focus more on the Bible stories Jesus told that got them angry: God appearing people who are outside their small world.

Our congregation is begining the discussion of whether to share our space with another congregation. There is a lot of resistance, based on past experiences as well as some stereotypes, and the discussion itself may shake us up. Are we ready to risk standing at the edge of the cliff? Say something that may get others angry? Expand our world, share our space, risk a relationship that may end up being more of a pain than a blessing (because that often happens when sharing space)?

I'll have to use the I Cor. passage with this, "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear."

love you all! DGinNYC


Hey, Eric in OH- This is totally off-topic and probably inappropriate for here, but which diocese are you in? The new Bishop of Ohio, Mark Hollingsworth, is a good friend of mine. He was my rector when I was a teenager and now I'm a transitional deacon. Then again, maybe this is relevant - could I ever serve in a diocese where the Bishop knew me as a child? Maybe not - anyone who could suffer through knowing me as a teenager and would be able to see me as a colleague would have to be a remarkably forgiving person. -Julie in MA


Hey, Julie in MA -- I'm in Mark's new diocese. In fact, I spent a couple of days with Mark and Sue (and a bunch of other clergy couples) just two weeks ago. And in a few days, I will be meeting with a committee of other clergy to plan his consecration and ordination as our bishop.

Could you serve with a bishop who knew you as a child? Sure. Why not? Many of us have.

Blessings, Eric in OH


I think I have an idea for why the people in the synagog went into such a rage.

First of all some background. I read somewhere that Galilee had a mixed Jewish and Gentile population. Perhaps there were the same kinds of tensions in Galilee that exist in Israel/Palestine, or Ireland, or Bosnia, or...

Jews of that day, as we all know, wanted nothing to do with Gentiles. Gentiles were not the chosen people, so many (most?) looked down on Gentiles. The tension between them must have been great.

Then here comes a perfectly good Jewish boy to remind them that God helped Gentiles and ignored Jews. In effect, He was telling them that God loved(those hated, enemy) Gentiles at least as much as He loved Jews and that the two were equal. A modern day parallel might be a good Jewish boy in modern Israel saying in his synagog that God loved the Palestinians at least as much as the Jews and that the two were equal. Can you feel the rage? Or, in the 1960's, imagine a white boy standing up in his segregationist church and saying the God loved Blacks at least as much as whites and that the two were equal. For those of us old enough to remember, it is not hard to imagine the kind of rage that would have produced. You can go all over the world and see the same scenario. You can see it right at home. There is a retired neighbor who mows his lawn sometimes twice a day. I'm fortunate if I can mow my lawn once a week. My neighbor thinks I am some kind of scum when it comes to mowing grass. He wouldn't go into a rage over something this small, but he would certainly snort his displeasure if someone told him that in God's eyes, we were just as good. He knows he's better than me. I am, of course, just as arrogant, especially toward those who are as arrogant as I am. It has always puzzled me that those who are tolerant become most intolerant of the intolerant.

My point is that we can understand the rage of that First Century synagog by understanding whatever kind of prejudices we have in us that produce rage in us when we are challenged. Then, when we see our sin (which ultimately is the same as theirs), we can hear the Good News that Jesus has come to set us free from all such "irrelevancies" as sin, death and the power of the devil...and even my arrogance...and has opened a whole new way of dealing with each other: through love. It's jsut an idea. What do you think? LB in MN


This is terribly late to be making a contribution (computer virus trouble is just another way of being tested, an opportunity for spiritual growth!) but I am going to work with this little insight: those that we think are outside the grace of God are not as "out" as we think, and those who think they have an "in" with God are not as "in" as they think.

On another occasion, I quipped that we don't really have all that much trouble understanding why bad things happen to good people, but we get really upset when good things happen to bad people! Of course, we want the messiah who is "one of our own" to take care of us first, so we get upset when Jesus tells us that God's love isn't based on favoritism, but grace. We have to be careful that we don't choose the benefits over our Benefactor!

OLAS