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Exodus 33:12-23
 

33:12 Moses said to the LORD, "See, you have said to me, 'Bring up this people'; but you have not let me know whom you will send with me. Yet you have said, 'I know you by name, and you have also found favor in my sight.'

33:13 Now if I have found favor in your sight, show me your ways, so that I may know you and find favor in your sight. Consider too that this nation is your people."

33:14 He said, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest."

33:15 And he said to him, "If your presence will not go, do not carry us up from here.

33:16 For how shall it be known that I have found favor in your sight, I and your people, unless you go with us? In this way, we shall be distinct, I and your people, from every people on the face of the earth."

33:17 The LORD said to Moses, "I will do the very thing that you have asked; for you have found favor in my sight, and I know you by name."

33:18 Moses said, "Show me your glory, I pray."

33:19 And he said, "I will make all my goodness pass before you, and will proclaim before you the name, 'The LORD'; and I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.

33:20 But," he said, "you cannot see my face; for no one shall see me and live."

33:21 And the LORD continued, "See, there is a place by me where you shall stand on the rock;

33:22 and while my glory passes by I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and I will cover you with my hand until I have passed by;

33:23 then I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back; but my face shall not be seen."

 

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verse 33- "...and you shall see my back"

I believe it was Fred Craddock, the southern preacher, who said one time (about our proclivity to wax too familiarly about God) words to the effect that "to hear some people talk, you would think they circled God three times and took photographs!"

To me, Craddock's satire is illustrated by formulaic Christianity expressed in such things as "the four spiritual laws," the "plan of salvation," and our sometimes too tenacious insistence that our dogmas and doctrines are "right on" (read "infallible") about God. Perhaps our proclamation about God is sometimes better served not by our certain and cocksure claims, but by our hesitancy and reservedness, by the sharing of our hints and glimpses of divinity.

When I see someone I think I know from the back, I am sometimes right...it really is who I think it is...and sometimes I am wrong, having misidentified him or her because I have seen only partially.

Back to Craddock's statement, perhaps Micah 6:8 is an apt commentary. "What is required of you, O mortal, is to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk HUMBLY with your God."

Tom in Jamestown, New York


If we have no image of God, if we cannot see his face, if we have no way of recognizing him, how do we know he is with us?

(No wonder they made a bull, a graven image, to give them some security.)

What kind of security does the emperor/the President give us? Is he an icon of the divine presence and will? How do we distinguish between temporal and spiritual power and presence?

Where is God in the midst of domination? How do we follow him whose presence is hidden in the ordinary, everdayness of life?

tom in ga


The question for the Hebrew people was, would they go forward, serving the living god who delivered them from Egypt, but whose face they could not see? Or would they turn to worship idols (like the golden calf of last week)?

You can be sure whether or not a golden calf is with you, just as we can know whether or not we have money. We can count our money, add and subtract the monthly statements and come up with a number. Even if it's a negative number, we know where we stand. But how can we know if God is with us or not?

God remains hidden, even when present, because to do otherwise would be to destroy us. (We would be consumed, or killed by God's glory... not exactly the kind of God you would want to pray "now I lay me down to sleep" to...)

We can know God, only as God restrains or holds back her power, so as not to obliterate us.

In Jesus Christ, God puts aside his power, even puts his power into our hands, to accept and love, or to reject and crucify. We see the face of God in Jesus.

some random ramblings - DGinNYC


To DGin NYC: The points you offered in your post were of great help to me in my thinking process. Does anyone have suggestions on how this scripture lesson might correspond or go with the scripture from Matthew? Thanks. Mike in MO.


Mike in MO In response to your question about connecting this text with the Gospel: I think tom in ga has given a point from which to begin the connection. "What kind of security does the emperor/the President give us?" The face on our money is an icon just as the news photos of the current president (in whatever year) show us an image not unlike the Roman coin in the Gospel. We know what the "emperor" looks like and demands of us. We DON'T know what God looks like, but we do know what God demands of us. All things considered, it often seems easier to do what the emperor asks of us than what God asks of us.

I am musing about ways to connect that very idea with my intended title and original direction. My working title for the moment is "Covered" -- thinking about the comfort of being "covered" as in cozy and warm and safe. God covers us in just those ways, yet God also demands certain things of us that don't make us feel cozy and warm and safe.

Don't know where all these musings will lead as yet, but Tom has given me some food for serious thought this week.

StudentPastor in KS