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Scripture Text (NRSV)

 

1 John 5:1-6

 

5:1 Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the parent loves the child.

5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments.

5:3 For the love of God is this, that we obey his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome,

5:4 for whatever is born of God conquers the world. And this is the victory that conquers the world, our faith.

5:5 Who is it that conquers the world but the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

5:6 This is the one who came by water and blood, Jesus Christ, not with the water only but with the water and the blood. And the Spirit is the one that testifies, for the Spirit is the truth.

 

Comments:

 

I believe that I'm supposed to preach something this week on the first 2 verses of this passage; that is, on being "children of God." My sermons are for a hospital chapel service that is also on closed circuit TV throughout the hospital. It may have to do with identity kinds of things, I'm not sure (Like how we often identify ourselves by our occupations - doctor, lawyer, housewife, preacher, etc) I think the Psalm may play a part in it, also, with the joyful, possibly child-like spirit which it communicates. I've just read the postings on the Gospel lesson,though, and they seem so heavy, all about the struggle to "abide," to "persevere," and the difficulty of staying Christian after you become Christian. It makes me wonder if I'm missing the point. Any thoughts out there about tying this passage to the Psalm, or how the good news is about being a child of God? Thanks everyone for ALL your thoughts and postings. Janice in Ks.


This past week, my wife bought some graduation cards. The front cover had this simple line: "Life is good."

I thought how wonderfully counter-cultural that sentiment was! Cynicism and the mentality of being a victim seem to be the preferred ideologies of our time. My wife is no pollyanna; she's experienced some of the grim realities of life. Yet, she can affirm truthfully that life is good.

I think this has to do with the centrality of Jesus in her life. The "commandments" of Jesus, to believe in Him and to love Him and neighbor, are't "burdensome" unless you regard your faith relationship with Christ as some grim obligation to be endured. Not every experience we have in life is wonderful. There are tragedies we endure.

But life is good. I mean that first, in terms of the life that God has given us in what Bruce Cockburn has called our "world of wonders." I mean it also in terms of the new life in Christ that all who believe in Jesus are given. We know to Whom we belong and how the story is going to end...and it's good.

No wonder the psalmist says, "Sing to the Lord a new song!"

So, Janice, I don't think you're being naive or missing the point of this passage at all!


RE: vs 4 & 5: this fits into the Peace theme that I am using this week... We can conquer the world for God through love and faith, by living our lives for God through the love of Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit. Conquer, that is, in the sense of establishing a common interest, a base of communication, a feeling of inclusiveness and recognition of brotherhood; not conquering in the sense of beat them, rule over them, force them to conform to our ideas and traditions 'or else.'Sort of ties in with John 15 and with the last part of John 14. I am using John 14, verses 24-27 as part of the scripture reading. Rev Jan in CNY


I am struck by verses 4 & 5. When one thinks of conquerers images of victory parades and vanquished opponants come to mind. But the victory of the children of God is not celebrated or even seen by the world. Our victory is faith. While the world may see our faith it hardly sees it as victory. The spoils of our conquest are hidden. While the world remains intoxicated with power and control the children of God have obtained the true prize - faith in Christ. What a wonderful paradox. What a wonderful picture of a life of faith! I would appreciate other thoughts on this as I develop this idea for Sunday. Jeff in Western NY


I am focusing on verse six as it deals with the water that is our entrance into the community of faith and the blood that was shed for us. I will tie all this in with our memorial day theme. I have many World War II veterans in the congregation. so this verse fits very well. Sermon Title: "Blood is thicker than water"

SunCityRev


I think it ironic that this passage falls over the Memorial Day weekend. The conquerers image may be an opportunity for us to look at what we have tried to do in our world as Christian conquerers. I think I may take advantage of this passage to give words of encouragement to members of some of our church organizations, specifically the men's and women's organizations, whose members are getting discouraged because they have been losing members for years. It will be a time to point them to the heart of what they do: our faith is the victory that will conquer the world. Sharon Joseph


Since Easter I have been preaching on the ways of "walking in the light"--since God is light and 1 John started us with that verse--God is light--no darkness in God. Many in my congregation know the "darkness" in the world first hand right now and this has been a healing series. Last week--I preached on courage and boldness that comes with the assurrance of love from one another and this week will go on with victory over the darkness of the world that comes from our "exercise" of faith. The commentaries all talk about the confusing issues of 1 John but I have found the lections gentle and healing. Of course Im a child of the 60s and love is a topic I enjoy exploring!! sjeks


Thanks to whoever posted the response to my question. Are you the same person who posted that awesome sermon? Your thoughts are much appreciated. And are on target for where I think I need to go. Thanks. Janice in Ks.


Children of God is a greatly under- appreciated phrase. Most of us pretty much take for granted what it means to be child of whoever our parents are, like fish never considering water.

There is a wonderful scene in Tolstoy's War and Peace, where the main character, Pierre who has just lamented to his best friend, Prince Aundrey, how one of his greatest grievances is that his father never married his mother and how his father could never quite acknolwedge that Pierre was his son. On his death bed Pierre's father tells his son that he loves him and gives him a document acknolwedging him as his son and sole heir to his vast fortune (and Title). Pierre suddenly becomes a responsible person who wants to build schools and hospitals to improve the life of the serfs on his vast estate.

I am also reminded of the Movie "Dave" where a character played by Kevin Kline is a look a like for the president, then secretly fills in as president for several months after the president has had a stroke which unknown to the public is debilitating. Dave is "playing" president without really feeling legitimate. Yet at one point Dave does something bold, courageous and creative and accomplishes something truly important. Reflecting on this later the first lady says, "I don't think you were just "playing" president.

Most of us have doubts about our own worthiness or importance. Most of us feel like we are not living up to what we want to be. The gospel says that who we are deep inside is really more wonderful than what is visible on the surface. Others doubt us and we look at where we are and doubt ourselves. But this epistle says there is wonderful proof. When we are loving, that is absolute proof that we are children of God and that our spirit is God's spirit living in us. Its like the document Pierre recieved proclaiming him legitimate heir and the next Count Bezukoff.

Janice, when we are in the hospital it is one of those times when we don't feel like we can do anything to be worthy of the love of God or others. To simply love others as a gift with no strings attached is the essential family trait. Like some secret password, it is the sign by which we know for certain that we are children of God. Sometimes when we are being cared for, we feel there is nothing we can do in return but alowing someone to love us unconditionally with nothing in return is really one of the greatest experiences. Those who love without anything in return, experience something of God's own nature and come to have greater understanding and appreciation of God. Let someone love you even when we have nothing to give in return because in doing so we both experience being children of God. Manzel


I have been reading the book “Fresh Faith” by Jim Cymbala. In this book the author makes a point that has been guiding my sermon preparation this Sunday.

“We cannot life of the commands of God, but rather the promises. The commands of God reveal his holy character to us, but they hold no accompanying power” (page 151).

For the past few weeks now the lectionary has been hammering on the theme of love. Jesus then, in today’s Gospel reading, puts it in the form of a direct commandment. If you are like me that is not always an easy commandment to just follow. (There are some folks that are difficult to love or that I don’t particularly want to love.)

Enter the Holy Spirit (Readings from Acts and First John). Here is the promise that we are called to live in. The Holy Spirit.

If we try to live by the commandment, it is like trying to live by the law. We can’t do it alone, we can’t do it good enough, we just set ourselves up for failure. (How many times as a pastor have I had to deal with a distraught parishoner who was riddled with guilt because they were not ‘good enough’ as a Christian or at living the Christian life?)

By merging the three readings (1 John, John, and Acts) we can put the quote from Cymbala into practice. This is liberating. No longer do we have to be confined to trying to fulfill a commandment, we are freed to live in the promise of the Holy Spirit and power to love which flows forth.

Just some general thoughts to contribute to an already worthwhile discussion.

Peace,

DWR


As I have been studying this passage I have been wondering about the way the world's ideas and standards for success have impacted the church such that we have little understanding of what it means to have an "overcoming faith", but we can describe what is successful (for example the material put out by John Maxwell...not that it's bad, but I wonder about the emphasis)...Hmmmmmmmm tina in ohio


To: Janice in Ks (and whoever else may be reading)

I'm the one who responded to your post on this text. But I'm not the one who posted a sermon. Thanks for your kind words. God bless!

Mark in OH


DWR, I liked what you said about what you have been reading recently being liberating. Please say more about this. thanks, Manzel


JG in WI

The posts this week have been great, and I see much potential here. Thank you all.

However, there's been little discussion of v. 6 (which is problematic). Notice however that Jesus came by both water and blood. And notice how emphatic John is about it... repeating it. It's like his readers would have ignored it if he haddn't mentioned it. The blood, of course, speaks of His suffering and death.

We like to take the suffering out of Christianity sometimes. I know I do. But truly, there is no genuine Christianity without genuine suffering.

Only in Christianity do we have a God (Jesus) who has suffered. As strange as it sounds, we need to embrace the suffering our faith calls us to.


Kathleen Norris' newest book, A Vocabulary of Grace (I think that's the title) has sections on various theological words. Her section on "Blood" is good--how some of those old hymns that wallow in the blood imagery remind us that we can't deny the presence of blood in Christianity--we can't, nor should we, make it bloodless, antiseptic, etc. I was listening to NPR yesterday and heard again warnings that we must not try to sanitize everything so that we don't have enough good microbes and bacteria. Seems like we are still trying to deny the presence of blood and bacteria not only in our religion but in our lives. Sometimes it needs to be messy to be real, and it needs to be real to make a difference. JMK in PA